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Re: Linux/Ubuntu 4.6.5 Beta

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:02 pm
by Tim
We have updated the Linux Beta fixing a few issues.

    The missing Bible on fresh install matter is fixed
    The espeak TTS issues are fixed, I think. At least they are better.
    A couple scrolling issues with the mouse wheel
    The phantom indexing issue after the mods are already indexed is fixed.
Also, we can verify that Bible Analyzer will run on Linux Mint as well as Linux Ubuntu. It will likely run on similar Linux flavors, but we will only support Ubuntu and Mint. They are the most popular Linux distros. ... -5_all.deb

Re: Linux/Ubuntu 4.6.5 Beta

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:42 pm
by MPaul
I reinstalled. The text to speech works now. I had to set the language to English. Scrolling with the touch pad is fine also.

Overall, the program is running real smooth, and it is a pleasure to use it.

I installed AV1611 to test the .run stuff, and it displays the font in Verdana, which is my default. Maybe, I have to install some special font for it, as setting indicate a different one for it -- although if it is Gothic? that can be difficult.

Re: Linux/Ubuntu 4.6.5 Beta

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:42 pm
by MPaul
I updated the BA in my Xubuntu OS to the Beta. It worked just perfectly -- everything. Or should I say everything, assuming that the Dual Window viewer does not work because I never understood it. I cannot get that to work, but I don't know that I ever could.

Re: Linux/Ubuntu 4.6.5 Beta

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:26 pm
by Tim

The second window of the dual viewer is in the Results Window. We are looking at changing its location to the Ref Panel in 4.7.

Re: Linux/Ubuntu 4.6.5 Beta

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:04 pm
by MPaul
Tim wrote:The second window of the dual viewer is in the Results Window. We are looking at changing its location to the Ref Panel in 4.7.

Then, I would say the dual viewer is not working on my computer. I just tried it repeatedly, and twice I got a results window with the 2nd bible, but usually I did not get a results window. And in that case, it was not working in Xubuntu as well. Unless there is something about it I still just do not understand.

Re: Linux/Ubuntu 4.6.5 Beta

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:53 am
by Brother Mike
Hi Tim.

Thanks for getting that phantom index issue fixed. That was really annoying. I checked sound and I can link to my Bible audi files. The T2S is a little choppy, but I use the Scourby files anyway.

I use Xubuntu (12.04) and the dual Bible seems to be working for me.

Kudos and many blessings for your work, Tim.

Re: Linux/Ubuntu 4.6.5 Beta

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:46 am
by MPaul
I figured out how to use the Dual Window. First, one has to go to default lay out, and then click Dual Window. Then, close the Dictionary and Commentary windows. It always works and it works fine.

However, if one is just in the Bible window, and the Dual Window icon is clicked, a settings panel comes up, but not a second viewing panel.

So... if that is how it is supposed to work, then I would definitely change the instruction in the Help Index to reflect the procedure in the more extensive manner.

It looks very neat, and I think I'm going to start using it now. There are always benefits to Beta testing, ya know.

Re: Linux/Ubuntu 4.6.5 Beta

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:19 am
by nymusicman
Thank you so much, Tim. I really appreciate seeing an update to the Linux version. I also appreciate having Linux specific modules. To be honest the way I always worked with the modules was to grab the windows versions run it in wine and copy the files from the wine install folder to the appropriate Linux folder.

One thing to consider that might help with modules and could be run on all your versions is using an interface built into BA, like the way the Sword Project or E-Sword does it. You could look at the code for Xiphos or Bibletime to see how they do it. I know this could be more difficult for your paid modules, but E-Sword seemed to be able to work with it. Anyway, this isn't a request so much as a suggestion. I know it's a big project to put together but in the long run it might save time and work. Don't know.

Anyway, thank you again and I do believe submitting to the Ubuntu Software Center will help gain attraction and make the Linux version of Bible Analyzer more viable for you. There is a lot of community that is just not concerned whether linux apps are open source or not anymore, it's truly a great time for Linux developers such as yourself to make a name.

I'll be praying for the best outcome for BibleAnalyzer for Linux as it has been an invaluable tool for me on both Windows and my favorite platform.

I would like to also encourage you to not just get your statistics from the browser identification but maybe make a checkbox survey as to what platforms people buying modules will be using them on. I almost bought a module while I was on Windows and then remembered what you said about how you collect statistics. Now I will be buying them on my Linux box for sure, but I think a checkbox (not bullet so people who use them across different platforms can select all the platforms they use) survey would help you a lot more in knowing how your software is used. This would also help you when you expand into mobile as well, assuming you will be selling cross platform modules. Thanks again!

Re: Linux/Ubuntu 4.6.5 Beta

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:54 am
by Tim
Thanks for the comments.

I thought I would give Linux one more big push and see what happens. If it goes, good. If not, there is no point in continuing it. I have spent nearly a week updating the app, changing the module delivery format and method, and such. This is valuable time so I hope it goes.

It is not just the OS stats but the .deb downloads I also count. Linux users are about 5% of our visitors/users. Mac used to be the same but it is growing quickly. We have had a Linux app out for years and the Mac app only since May of 2012 and mac has greatly passed Linux in users and downloads.

I just submitted Bible Analyzer to the Ubuntu Software Center this morning. We will see what happens.

Re: Linux/Ubuntu 4.6.5 Beta

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:55 am
by MPaul
Now I am using the Dual Window, and there are other problems.

First, I set up a layout, AV with TRI, Bible tree present. I saved the lay-out. It was nice being able to click to it. (I wonder how I could start up with that default). However, after I tested it a few times, it came up AV and Scripture Pad. I had to click the Dual Window icon to make TRI appear.

Also, if I have the AV and TRI set up, and I change the verse, the Commentary window comes up with the new verse, and AV changes, but the TRI does not change. Then, I have to close the Commentary window, open the Dual window and click sync.

Also, in the parallel window, TRI and TBP do not appear. I always assumed this was just normal, as these texts are Greek. However, if they can appear in the Dual window, then maybe, they actually are supposed to be able to appear in the parallel.

BA has so much stuff, that to test everything would take a long time. But I do stuff in between things, and my day's schedule is always changing somehow... like today.

At any rate... at one time I was listening to some piano music in BA. I wanted to come back to it, as I thought it might be nice to test for a house meeting. But now I cannot find it, and the Help index does not seem to have anything on it.